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Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Justin

Justin — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:31:47 +0000

Finally, just spitballing on deals and 2020.
Deadline:
Deal Vazquez to the Braves for Pache and Anderson.
Deal Marte to the Phillies for the best package possible, even if it is all lower level guys.

Winter:
Sign, say, Alex Gordon for, say, 1×10.
Trade for Mark Melancon. it’d require the Giants to eat some, and the pirates wouldnt give up anything big. basically a 1 yr 10 mil FA signing.

Before Oliva/Pache/Waters shows theyre ready, the team would look like:
LF: Gordon, CF: Reynolds, RF Polanco, 3b Moran/Hayes, SS Tucker/Newman 2b Frazier/Newman 1b Bell C Diaz/Stallings
SP: Taillon Archer Williams Musgrove Keller Anderson (Agrazal/Brubaker/Brault/Marvel/Bolton)
7th/8th/9th inning RP: Kela, Melancon, Crick, Burdi, Santana?

Assuming ~20 million in raises to players [is this reasonable?], and assuming my calculations are correct, this team would be even cheaper than 2019, so they could go bigger on the few FA additions if they wanted. Heck, they could sign Will Smith the RP.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Justin

Justin — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:03:41 +0000

it happens

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Justin

Justin — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:02:49 +0000

They also have about $30 million going out the door in impending FA. Getting payroll back to a responsible level will involve spending what’s leftover after arb + guaranteed raises (of which… who is even left after marte/vazquez? Polanco i guess?) on another player.

and this is really just to get spending back to this year’s paltry level. if they ONLY get payroll back to a still-pathetic $90 million, they’d be able to add an additional good player what already seems like a pretty deep, good, young team.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:59:29 +0000

Yes. I suffer from Temporary Kieboom Derangement.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Justin

Justin — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:53:13 +0000

I’m getting more and more intrigued by current AA CF Jared Oliva, but i certainly would endorse a Vazquez deal that’d bring back Pache/Waters. (i like the LAD and MIN deals as well)

And once they’d have Oliva + Pache/Waters, i’d then become more open to a Marte deal. Which would then require its own article. But the Phillies would be obvious.

In theory, they could deal Marte and Vazquez and free up ~$15 mil in 2020. In theory, one of Oliva + Pache/Waters would be ready *early* in 2020. In theory, they could throw a chunk of that freed $15 million at a decent-good closer this winter. In theory, they could add a ton to the future of this club without really taking away much, if any at all, from the 2020 club, as long as they bring payroll back up to a responsible level.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Justin

Justin — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:47:24 +0000

i assume you mean WAS AAA SS/2b Carter Kieboom?

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Don Kiebals

Don Kiebals — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:35:03 +0000

Please try to be realistic.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by bmcferren

bmcferren — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:07:03 +0000

What about transitioning Vasquez to the rotation? He already has been known to go multiple innings. He could certainly build up to 5 innings by the end of the season.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by wkkortas

wkkortas — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:31:17 +0000

One thing I read about the Braves is that they may be reticent to move prospects because they are still frozen out of the international signing market for some time yet. That said, I would be perfectly happy to see the Pirates jump on any of these packages–indeed, the return could be a little sweeter this deadline, as Vasquez is (unless you have a very high opinion of Ken Giles) the only first-line closer who would be on the market come the deadline.

Comment on Six Potential Trade Spots For Felipe Vazquez by Joe

Joe — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:56:40 +0000

?The interesting part about that is actually you ?re buying either way, ? Huntington said. ?Are you buying for the present or are you buying for the future

Ugh, this is the worst quote. Can you get any cheesier?

Okay, so I love how you presented this, Kevin. It’s an intriguing way to look at the potential returns for Pittsburgh’s most valuable asset. If LAD offered May/Smith + and GMNH turned it down b/c they’re trying to go for it this year, that would be a fireable offense. That’s the Godfather deal.

I’ve been enamored w/ Pache for some time, so a package around him and an elite arm + Langliers sounds enticing, as well.

I’ve tinkered w/ the thought that maybe a team on the cusp of competing could make the call as well. If the SDP or CWS called and offered from their deep farms, it could be worth it.

I’d like the idea of Patino, Orenals, Morejon & Austin Allen from San Diego. Or Luis Robert, Aaron Bummer (I’m mildly obsessed w/ acquiring Bummer so .. I’ll drop his name in all of my comments), + from CWS.

I love watching Vasquez in Pittsburgh, but it’s the smart move to pick up the phone and… buy for the future?