Comments on: Crazy Pirates Trade Idea Corner — OF Carlos Gonzalez

By: VladWDC

VladWDC — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:29:03 +0000

Stop. smoking. crack.

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:35:26 +0000

“….with Dodgers paying Pirates undisclosed cash in deal…”

Click on the link on Pirates page for 2016-21 spreadsheet and look at bottom. You’ll see the -3.8m assumed from Dodgers

By: Jc

Jc — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:14:12 +0000

Michael Morse 1b-of
2 years/$16M (2015-16)

2 years/$16M (2015-16)
signed by Miami as a free agent 12/17/14
$1M signing bonus
15:$7M, 16:$8M
annual performance bonus: $0.25M for 550 plate appearances
acquired by LA Dodgers in trade from Miami 7/30/15, with Dodgers responsible for remaining $10,524,590 on contract ($2,524,590 in 2015 and $8M in 2016)
acquired by Pittsburgh in trade 7/31/15 after being DFA by LA Dodgers 7/30/15, with Dodgers paying Pirates an undisclosed amount of cash in the deal
1 year/$6M (2014)

By: Kellen

Kellen — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:19:24 +0000

Absolutely no way I give up Glasnow for Gonzalez. Too many question marks for me (and only 2 years). I wouldn’t be opposed to Bell in this scenario, though… and for that reason, I don’t see Colorado pulling the trigger for Bell and spare parts.

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:52:48 +0000

It has never been stated what the amount is. Cots has it as $3.8m which offsets what tabata was to make this year…morse=tabata’s deal

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:51:06 +0000

There is still budget (only 4.3m diff in trade) for fa pickups.

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:49:58 +0000

I agree that it makes organizational sense for the OFs, not sure if Ramirez gets it done. Meadows might, especially w the lower revised surplus value

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:54:33 +0000

Pitnick (and Andy) –
You’re correct. I made a math error, which if you know me is inexcusable in my book. His value is 1.8 WAR/yr, which changes the tenor of the trade. Colorado would have to kick in $$ and Glasnow goes off the table, probably. However, I would still trade for him as his offensive value (wRC+ of 114 last year, 146 year before) outweighs his defensive deficiencies that suppress his WAR and can be hidden by PNC’s smaller RF.

I’ll make an editors note. Thank you both.

By: pitnick

pitnick — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:08:36 +0000

“A 3-2-1 weighted bias puts more emphasis on the recent season (3 times) and then lower back. It doesn’t divide by 6, but rather the number of seasons (in this case, 3)”

It divides by six because you’re essentially counting six seasons: the most recent season three times, the second most recent twice, and then the third most recent. 3 + 2 + 1 = the denominator, which is 6. If you divide by 3 after multiplying his more recent WAR, you’re essentially just giving him credit for a 7.2 win year in 2015, which he didn’t have.

By: Eric

Eric — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:21:47 +0000

You should probably double-check your math before suggesting that a team give up an elite prospect for a guy with negative trade value.