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The End Of TPOP Is Nigh

It pains me to say that after discussions between Steve and myself, we have both decided that The Point of Pittsburgh will be shuttering its e-doors at the end of this baseball season.

For me, the site has become a grind to maintain and incorporate into my daily life. When TPOP started, I had a 7 year old and a newborn. Now five years later, there are three kids and they all have activities and little lives of their own. My job as an engineer is time-consuming, as well, so my bandwidth has become more and more limited in recent years.

If I had the time and money to invest into TPOP, I'd love to make it a multimedia experience for the audience. Podcasts, short videos, and written articles are the future for how people will be consuming content. In order to provide that, though, I'd want to properly compensate the creators of said content and that's not possible without either an investor, sponsorship, a paywall, or some combination thereof. It's just not an endeavor I could commit to.

I'm also feeling like I'm no longer on top of my game as a baseball writer and analyst. I feel like I've analyzed the team from every angle possible and there's a chance that maybe I've run out of things to say. I've always believed that bands only have so many great songs or albums in them. Maybe the same is true of baseball writers.

TPOP has always been a bulwark against the crushing onslaught of pandering to the lowest common denominator that is mainstream baseball coverage in this city. I would like to think that we've done our best to present reasoned, stat-based arguments, both positive and negative, on why the Pirates have done things. At times, it has felt like the little Dutch boy trying to plug the dike.

For a site that has typically published just one article a day, Monday through Friday, I'm proud of the imprint we've created. Our pageviews, because of only doing one article per day, do not compare to other sites. But that's not what Steve and I wanted TPOP to be when we formulated it while sitting at a Pirate game in August of 2014.

Sadly, that vision of what we wanted has strayed, too. That's another reason that I'm thinking it's time to close up shop. The City Life aspect has fallen by the wayside as I've been too tied up with family life and Steve has moved out of Pittsburgh in recent years. We've tried to bring in writers to handle that to little or no avail. I've always had an interest in the Pittsburgh food scene and we've done some things here and there, but not to the extent I envisioned. I feel like I no longer have my finger on the pulse of things in Pittsburgh like I used to.

TPOP has done some great things, though. One of our former writers, Joe Douglas, is now an analyst in the Pirates' front office and has an incredibly bright future ahead of him in baseball if he continues on his path. Our partnership with Fangraphs lead to Alex Stumpf getting a month-long residency there back in May 2017 and our work on prospect surplus value was licensed there until they decided to tackle it in-house. We've been referenced for that work and other articles in The Washington Post, SB Nation, and many other websites. We've been featured guests on 93.7 The Fan many, many times, including a myriad of in-studio on-air hours.

We have had many great writers over our nearly five years of existence. Our current cast of writers is our best grouping at any time, which makes this even more difficult. Alex Stumpf recently was brought on board as the Pirates' beat writer for DK Pittsburgh Sports, which is a regional platform deserving of his talents as an amazing young writer. He and I have always been simpatico on our views of this team and he has consistently been my go-to writer if I needed something. Jake Smail is engaging with fans on Twitter to a degree that I simply am not (as I'm a borderline misanthrope) and his articles are fantastic. Nate Werner should be in a baseball front office. Pure and simple. Please hire him, MLB. Brandon Conner is not only a sharp analytical writer, but his puns on Twitter bring me consistent laughter that is always welcomed. Michael Bradley has been ride-or-die for TPOP since the outset of the site. His pieces were always asymmetrical from the typical viewpoint, but that's why I liked them.

On the hockey side, Vince Comunale has been a steady rock for our hockey coverage. His historical articles on hockey in Pittsburgh were enlightening for me as a reader, not just an editor. Sasank Vishnubhatla, like Nate, could easily be working in an NHL front office one day. Amazingly, he's just starting his senior year of college and is so far advanced with his hockey analysis through the use of neural networks.

And of course, there's Steve DiMiceli. We connected through an online Pirates forum and eventually met up to go to a game in 2011. He is truly a friend to me. I've always enjoyed his bone-dry sense of humor and his views on the Pirates. He's a great writer that I wish would write more often about more varied subjects, but I understand how life gets in the way of life sometimes. We don't go to Pirate games or Altoona Curve games as much as we used to and that makes me sad. Perhaps my favorite non-baseball thing about Steve is his pizzas. His Christmas Pizza Party opened my eyes to the joy of making your own pizza dough and not be afraid to get weird with the toppings. Homemade dough recipes have led to pear/pesto/mozzarella pizza, my wife's favorite one that I make now. A somewhat ho-hum game in August 2014 was just background noise for us laying out what would become The Point of Pittsburgh and I'm thrilled he was my co-conspirator on this endeavor.

Most importantly, TPOP would not have lasted close to five years without you, dear reader. Our readers were loyal and die-hards regarding our output. TPOP is not for everyone's taste, which is understandable. We worked hard to curate the audience we have and tried to raise the level of discourse about baseball and other subjects. We wanted to try and change the minds of readers, in an Alonzo Mourning GIF sort of way, but we weren't going to wait around and spoon feed it to them. I honestly want to thank all of you for your support.

For me, I suppose the Levels of Pirate Fandom article earlier this season was foreshadowing for all of this. I truly feel like Saito stuck in limbo, a tired and beaten down old man. By not having the site, I hope to get kicked up a level so that I can enjoy the game and the numbers associated, but not be consumed by them.

I hope to start work on a novel that I've had in skeleton form for some time now. I intend to go the formal publishing house route with this one. I just need a new challenge at my own pace.

Thank you everyone for reading TPOP all these years.

Nerd engineer by day, nerd writer at night. Kevin is the co-founder of The Point of Pittsburgh. He is the author of Creating Christ, a sci-fi novel available on Amazon.

35 Comments on The End Of TPOP Is Nigh

  1. Ross Bowker // September 3, 2019 at 7:43 AM //

    Kevin, I am sorry to hear this news but I completely understand. I am not sure how you found the time that you did to run this site and write with all of your other responsibilities. I will keep an eye out for this new novel, since I enjoyed Creating Christ so much. Good luck!

  2. I’ve enjoyed this site for the past five years. Thanks so much for the interesting and unique content you have posted.

  3. Thanks, Kevin. I stumbled into TPOP looking for valuations of prospects, and fell in love. This site is the EXACT niche I have always had a insatiable appetite for.. analytical, outside the box, high quality Pirates content. I’ve often felt spoiled that a team, so below the water mark for so long, could have sites like this one dedicated to it.

    Your site became part of my morning routine, often commenting (usually in agreement) and always enjoying the content you and your team provide. I’m obviously saddened by this news and a void in my routine just opened up, but nonetheless thank you. Could not appreciate all of the work from your crew any more than I do.

    Cheers, now on w/ your life’s work.

    • Kevin Creagh // September 3, 2019 at 11:58 AM //

      Thanks, Joe. Oftentimes your comments had better analysis than the articles! I appreciate your loyalty over the years.

  4. Bill Steele // September 3, 2019 at 9:31 AM //

    I’m sad to hear this, but wish you well with your family and future ventures! As a born-and-raised-Chicagoan life-long Pittsburgh fan (my dad grew up in Weirton, hence the connection), I enjoy the in-depth view of sports and life in Pittsburgh (presuming for the moment they are separable) I’m unable to find here. Good luck!

  5. Best of luck, folks– you can never have enough good writing out in the ether, and the end of TPOP will leave a significant void.

  6. What a fantastic run. I will miss this site terribly. Best of luck with everything going forward.

  7. So sorry to see you go, but I honestly don’t know how you’ve juggled it all for so long.
    Any chance this means you’ll be dipping back into Dale Berra’s Stash (so to speak…)

    • Kevin Creagh // September 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM //

      Hey Patrick! Yeah it's been a juggling act for sure. You know what my wife is like, then add 3 kids to that!
      Hope you are well.

  8. Jim Deweees // September 3, 2019 at 1:40 PM //

    Well, CRAP!
    Bonne chance.

    • Kevin Creagh // September 3, 2019 at 6:20 PM //

      Bon chance is an interesting turn of phrase considering the novel I want to write is about New Orleans

  9. Steve Dimmick // September 3, 2019 at 3:26 PM //

    i have two go to pirates websites, this was one of them. sad to see you go

  10. Silkychubs // September 3, 2019 at 4:37 PM //

    Man this stinks. This is one of the few sites I could count on where I wanted to read each Pirates article. Good luck to each one of you guys in your future endeavors.

  11. TPOP will be sorely missed in my house. But family comes first. Best of luck!

  12. Groat2Maz2Strangeglove // September 4, 2019 at 11:36 AM //

    Your work and perspectives have been much appreciated.
    Thanks for being the “Super Pirate Fan and Analyzer” that all of us think we are!

  13. Kevin,

    One of the readers at FOB&D Sports let me know of your pending departure. Having experienced the same at FOB, I can fully understand how you feel. Congratulations to you and Steve for a great run of producing outstanding content. Wishing you the best going forward. DO

  14. I was a Bill James baseball Abstract fan from the 1980’s and have greatly enjoyed your site since first hearing Kevin on the radio with Tab Douglas. I just marvel at the research and mathematics all the writers have done. Very impressive. The city life articles such as re-designing traffic patterns were excellent also. Thank you and I hope for the best with every contributor’s future endeavors.

    • Kevin Creagh // September 5, 2019 at 1:41 PM //

      That’s very kind of you to say. The younger writers on the site impress me just as much as you with their mathematical applications. Nate should be in a front office.

  15. Steven DiMiceli // September 5, 2019 at 9:14 PM //

    I really appreciate the kind words from everyone in this thread, and I’m sorry that we’ll be leaving a void for many of you. It’s great to find out just how much this site meant to people even given context.

    I’m so proud of the work that we’ve done here, and I plan to highlight some of it in a post before we wrap up. We’ve done some groundbreaking research that’s gotten national attention and hopefully helped launch some great careers in sports writing. I’m proud that we wrote serious, analytical pieces that never took themselves too seriously. It’s been an excellent run and I appreciate all of you for coming along for the ride.

  16. Awww. I have yet to become to involved in the tpop community, but wow have i always loved your articles. Different. Interesting. When i wanted to sit and read something about the bucs or pens that i knew would enlighten me, i chose tpop. Good luck on what’s next and i do hope that if you decide to write again that you will inform us. Thank you

  17. There are only two reason you guys are shuttering up. 1. You’ve been discredited over and over again due to your Nutting apologist agenda and, 2. You guys made absolutely no impact. No one cared about the garbage you were putting out!

    I knew this day would soon come. Guess I was right again. Good riddance!

  18. Phillip C-137 // September 12, 2019 at 4:31 AM //

    Very selfishly, I hate to read this news. I don’t remember what I was searching the day I found TPOP, but I’m glad I clicked onto that article. Within a few days I was referencing and crediting TPOP for info I brought to Pirates conversations.

    I’ve always appreciated the amount of effort it takes to put some of the more technical articles together. There’s breaking down pitches, pitch usage, hitting issues, payroll breakdowns and other articles that took A LOT of research to write.

    I’ve also appreciated the information presented in the opinion pieces. Most of the time we’ve had close to the same opinion and it’s satisfying that someone else independently and thoughtfully reached the same conclusion. And should the author be completely out to lunch (IMO) with his opinion, this site has been set up where I can state my differing view.

    I think it’s to your credit that for the most part you have attracted readers and commenters who add to the conversation, knowing that there’s a difference between guessing what the Pirates will do vs what they should do or could do. And also (for most of us) that arguing a point is different from a bunch of name calling or ranting about things out of our control (Nutting).

    With the MLB site going all hype all the time and other sites ranting over and over again about certain guys/things and then turning on a dime when the same guy does well, I believe you should be proud of the “adult” level of output you’ve printed.

    Hopefully, you’ll keep the site going with maybe a once or twice weekly article. Whatever you decide THANK YOU for your hard work and thoughtful articles.

    • Kevin Creagh // September 12, 2019 at 6:22 AM //

      Thank you Phillip. This was a decision I wrestled with for many months, not just over a day or two, as I proud of what TPOP has contributed. Your comment is a great one to read and it is something I take to heart. We stuck to our core beliefs and didn’t go pandering looking for clicks. It cost us some readership and people who just don’t want to see analytics in baseball. But Steve and I are happy with going out at the point we are.

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